Thoughts after church after a long absence

The Bible makes it clear.  You are only allowed to love, not to judge.

If people like Mike Pence have to voice their religious view that homosexuality is wrong, they must give it the balance it is due.  By that mean, if they want to spend ten minutes on gay people, they must first preach for 50 minutes on tolerance. they must condemn physical and verbal violence against everybody.  

10% of sermons can be on homosexuality only if 90% of the sermons are on divorce and adultery.

Christians must realize that their beliefs are shared by people that want to harm gay people. They want to thwart their pursuit of life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Many religious leaders and followers do speak out against judgement. Many do not. I am saying speak out against equality in marriage, etc, if you must. However your belief that it hurts the institution I of marriage should be secondary to your fight against the real hurts of God’s people.

Mike Pence should not be known for his stance on homosexuality. He should e known for his preaching against the hatred that is racism and homophobia, and even the atheist? Or am I wrong?  Would Jesus look like Mike Pence if he came back?

True religious people should be at the forefront of teaching tolerance.  In all aspects. The poor and the people on welfare. The people of color. They must condemn those that are Christian and do not make tolerance and love a priority.  

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I’m not saying that people are not living beyond their means but how much of living paycheck to paycheck is caused by the 2008 recession.  How much is caused by corporations maximizing profits (including buying politician) Union being busted while medical insurance and renting/ Homeownership is so expensive

 

The Bible makes it clear.  You are only allowed to love, not to judge.

 

If people like Mike Pence have to voice their religious view that homosexuality is wrong, they must give it the balance it is due.  By that mean, if they want to spend ten minutes on gay people, they must first preach for 50 minutes on tolerance. they must condemn physical and verbal violence against everybody.  They must realize that their beliefs are shared by people that want to harm gay people. They want to thwart their pursuit of life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

 

Many religious leaders and followers do speak out against judgement. Many do not. I am saying speak out against equality in marriage, etc, if you must. However your belief that it hurts the institution I of marriage should be secondary to your fight against the real hurts of God’s people.

 

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God only Works Through People

In the infancy of Christianity, it grew like wildfire. Romans persecuted Christians, but many people still converted to it. Because Christians had an impact on their lives. Christians were dedicated to helping people and taught that the poor were to be helped  There are mostly Christians that do good works, but too many of them do not. That is why they want to have the government to promote it. Because they do not do enough good that impacts people. Prayer in school doesn’t make future Christians- kind acts and charity do.

Many conservatives are concerned with secularization. They still want people to rely on God and not government. But God can only work through people. People need the government programs because not enough people live the life the Bible calls them to.

 

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Trump and his Wall

Two brothers co own a car.  One forgets to lock the doors and several times the car is broken into and stuff is stolen. They have a discussion.  The brother agrees to lock the doors. The other brother says that is not good enough.

They could compromise and also buy a car alarm.  Instead the conservative brother wants to weld the doors shut and weld bars over the windows.  He refuses to compromise though it is a dumb plan and will hurt the car.

That leaves nothing to compromise.

 

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What if abortion was treated like homelessness and hunger?

Conservatives and Liberals alike are involved in feeding people and providing shelter. Some people judge a person coming to a food pantry, but most people do not. They give their time and money without hesitation.  They do not ask how they became homeless. Only can we help you?

What if we approached women with an unwanted pregnancy like that? Just as we have man warming shelters and many, many food banks, it was common to have a place for a woman to go for help? If we were to change society so that they were valued and not judged for their predicament, they would seek out more options. Would there still be abortions? Yes. There were before 1973.

You say, we have food pantries and warming shelters and yet we still have hunger and homelessness. But I don’t think the resources for them are as much as those used in the name abortions.  If we could stop fighting about abortions, both sides would be free and richer to do something about it.

In the end, we provide food and shelter for those that need it. We want them to do things differently. Yet, we support them and believe that is the way to change things. I am only suggesting we do the same with abortions.

 

Losing my Religion- Thanks to you

I consider myself a religious person. However, my faith in religions and the Bible grows weaker every year.  I see little good in attending to both of them. Adam Carolla says that they have become more harm than good and to a certain degree I agree with him.

I’ve just realized that part of my growing dissonance with religion is caused by religious people quoting from the Bible, and replying to posts with anger.  Instead of being swayed, these posts cause me to question them.

A Facebook friend posted about how evolution was stupid.  Creationism was the only way to explain how perfect a human body works.  I found myself questioning the Bible and wanted to respond.  If we take Genesis at its word, then why don’t people believe in the old testament command that adulterers and their spouses must be killed?

The post used the word stupid in regards to evolution.  I give God credit for the wonderful way bodies and nature works.  I cannot say that it happened in six days.

 

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Idea

The idea of the soul entering the body used to be simple. but as we have progressed as society, it is harder to just say it enters at conception. twins, in vitro and test tube babies take away this simple answer. that does not mean that we have to say that there is no soul. To me, the soul may be like a human heart. It begins to collect materials and assemble. Once it begins to beat then it becomes a heart. Perhaps the soul is like that. it accumulates astral particles until it gets the right amount and then like a chemical reaction- like a pile of wood smoldering until it gets enough heat to ignite- the soul comes to life.

The Republicans that tried to say abortion should never happened, and said women should accept the baby as a gift from God, had to apologize. In his apology, he talked about how Gods abhors violence and abhors violence against women. (Richard Lugar). If this is so and I believe it is then perhaps it is time to see that God is not involved directly in people’s lives (at least not every moment Is it times to redefine God. It sounds terrible and yet the people that wrote the bible were doing just that. Over the centuries, they continued to do that.

So God does not allow rape to happen, it just happens. There is enough evidence that the soul does not get installed at conception. This is just someone’s idea. So when does someone get a soul? If God has not done anything about abortion and in fact in his world, miscarriages happen, then perhaps the soul waits. Perhaps it does accumulate cosmic energy as it grows and develops.

 

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Move to Moscow

An aunt of mine shared this post on Facebook- a list of how we are a nation that says this, but does this. (We believe in supporting the military but letfootball players kneel, etc) I believe my aunt is concerned with how divided our country is. My mom is an outspoken liberal.She went fought for her kids and anyone for that matter if she thought they were getting a raw deal. Now with Facebook, she rails against Trump everyday. She fights for what she believes in, so she responds that Trump is ruining this country. A family member’s response to this was:  move to Moscow.

This really struck me. Evidently he is against the right for women to choose and for black players to have the right to kneel. He is entitled to his opinion. But move to Moscow as a response? Does he not want to move Moscow to our country?  He clearly does not want her to state her opinion. Thus Russia would be a better fit for him.

Move to Moscow as a response? That in itself says if you do not agree with me, you should not be in our country. The great thing about our country is that people do not have to be silent.

So perhaps (In some people’s view) the players that kneel for the flag are being disrespectful. Perhaps they are in the wrong. However, the response to someone complaining about our country by saying well then leave it is asinine. State your well-reasoned beliefs, but to say Go to Moscow means you do not want people to have the freedom to speak up. You love a dictatorship.

 

PS- I want to believe that the response was just inarticulate. However, it does seem that people want the US to be the way they want it. The old way- back when we could trample on the rights of people different than white and Christian

 

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Marriage is Like Trucks

The practice of marriage existed long before Christianity was ever created. Before Judaism was ever created, and before Zoroastrianism, and most all religious systems. Marriage was created by Pagans. It’s not a Christian religious institution. So, in theory, the “author” or “authorized” practice of marriage belongs to the ancient Pagan cultures. This presents quite a dilemma for modern Christianity and for those who stand by “the Word of God” as to what is or is not “allowed.” It also provides an open window for permissive requirements, restrictions, rituals, allowances, and who or what may marry who or what.

The concept of marriage predates Christianity and the other two Abrahamic religions, Judaism and Islam which share a common origin and common values. Marriage is very ancient dating back beyond recorded history and was practiced by all people of many cultures, ethnicities and belief systems across all continents. The prevalence of the concept of marriage derived from a time when culture among humankind evolved from early man -hunter gatherer – to agriculture and pastoralism, which occurred about 10,000 years ago.

https://werdsmith.com/genesology/eIOCT11oJ

 

I have not checked the validity of the above information.  However, the fact that marriage has always been around and not just Christians do it, make this knowledge almost innate. Christians may in fact been the first to use the word marriage. Other words were used, however, and mean marriage.

Some religions have their definition of marriage. They can and should define marriage within their religion how they want. However, marriage has a different definition. This definition is a legal one and the constitution is the supreme law of the land.

So perhaps many disagree, but churches must have their definition and the law must allow for other definitions. They can fight against marriage for other individuals, but not through the law.

As I see it, marriage is like trucks.

The first motor truck was built in 1896 by German automotive pioneer Gottlieb Daimler. Today there are many trucks on the road. For example, UPS have distinct trucks.  I can call my truck a truck. UPS can not stop me. However, I can not paint my truck brown and call it a UPS truck.

Because I have a legal right to have a truck. I do not have a legal right to have a UPS truck. The same way, a gay person can have a marriage, but not a Catholic marriage (unless they are just consumed with guilt -Ha! Ha!).

 

There are gay couples, gay married couples. They have raised children that are good people. Meanwhile there are people labeling them. Trying to make them feel bad. Sending them the message that they are not as good. People that have read this thread.

Not a Thinker

There are several signs that someone is not a thinker but just a follower of the line the Koch brothers and the tea party feed you.  One is to exaggerate by saying we will be owned by China.  A second is saying that Obama tried to make us a Socialist country. A third is saying that you want to make America great again.

You can disagree with Obama’s view point.  But you are not thinking when you think conspiracy.  We are not owned by China, we are not a socialist state, we are not a Muslim country. We are a great country.  We were great under Obama. We were also great under Bush. I can say that though I disagreed with how he did things. Because I just don’t listen to Fox news and what some fallible human says at the pulpit.

Perhaps, we should make a list.  Was Obama selling us out to China?  In so as far as all politicians do because that is was corporations want.  Who was navigating a difficult foreign policy (Obama) and who has consumer goods after consumer goods made in China instead of hiring Americans (Trump).  Who was screwing American workers by simply refusing to pay them (Trump again).

Did people respect us under Obama?  For the most part yes. And he did it while keeping us safe.  Do foreign countries respect Trump?  Nope.

People that spew out words like socialism and the like are not thinking.  They are mimicking. Perhaps we need less government control.  Perhaps say that and why.  People on the other side thinking differently. We think a rising tide raises all boats.

Obama took us out of a huge recession cause by Bush and corporate greed and Trump is the poster boy.  He was not  the opposite of a socialist.  He was not a capitalist pig.  Wrong on stuff in my opinion, I have to admit he was trying to do right.

To not be able to admit that Obama treated his wife well, was good to people and was gentle to children is a sign of two things:  you don’t critically think, or you are a racist (unless you are both).

 

http://billmoyers.com/story/chinese-debt-explained/

 

 

SnowFlake

You there. You seem angry. Not you snowflake liberal. You, that angry christian conservative. Everything is so dire and everyone is out to get you. You are mad at everyone.  Why?

I suspect it may come from religion. That belief that we are sinners. Okay. That’s true, why is that the baseline for how God and ourselves look at human. It is simple so pessimistic.

It does not have to be that way.  Many churches and religious leaders and community members have a powerful, positive message. One that I beleive in.  Each day is a gift so make the most of it and enjoy it. These churches focus on God’s love and people leave them feeling good.

The text is the same, but they get a different message than you.  Not God, but you focuses on how much evil is in everyone and how human’s default mode is bad. It is not necessary. It does not pay to measure how much we sin. Why not just focus on being better?

I suspect that it that you are invested in your anger and your righteousness.

That’s a good angry ending. I was going to stop. But then it occurred to me that is not the whole answer for everyone. You are also worried that bad things happen and more and more worse things happen and you want it to stop. You are afraid that we as a people will start allowing anything to happen.

Valid fear.We should have standards and encourage people to do better.  But as jesus taught us. First love.